EXTRA BAGGS: Bochy 'embarrassed' by loss

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EXTRA BAGGS: Bochy 'embarrassed' by loss

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. The Giants didnt have a hit into theseventh inning Thursday night, and you couldnt blame 56-year-old manager BruceBochy if he felt like picking up a bat.

The opposing pitcher was 49-year-old Jamie Moyer, after all.

Moyer pitched like he was hustling to get home in time forMatlock. He faced 12 hitters and set down each of them, needing just 45pitches to complete four innings. Not a one topped 78 mph.

The Giants also made four errors (by four different players)in a 7-0 loss to the Colorado Rockies at Salt River Field.

We were embarrassed tonight, Bochy said. I dont carethat its spring training. Were leaving here in about 10 days and thats nowhow you want to look at this point.

Bochy paused a moment. As bad as it looked, it wasnt theend of the world.

Its one game, Bochy said. Youve got to keep it inperspective. Theyve been playing some good ball. Still, its amazing how offwe were. It started off bad and gradually got worse.

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Moyer had a hand in that. Bidding to make the Rockies astheir No.5 starter, his first outing with Colorado could come when the Giantsplay the second series of the season April 9-12 at Coors Field.

The Giants decided to hide Tim Lincecum in a minor leaguegame instead of pitching against the Rockies. Clearly, Colorado had no suchconcerns with Moyer as much as the Giants hitters might have preferredotherwise.

It screws up your whole week, first baseman Aubrey Huffsaid. Their last guy was throwing 93 and I shattered my bat because Im soused to waiting all day. At least in (batting practice) its 45 feet away, soit gets there quicker.

Huff was quick to congratulate Moyer for just getting out ofbed in the morning, let alone taking the mound.

Id never want to do it, Huff said. Good for him, though.I dont know if Ill be able to walk at that age. Of course, hes been astarting pitcher all his life. Hes only worked one out of every five days.

The Giants everyday guys didnt look so fresh. JoaquinArias, whose defense is the main reason hes under consideration for a finalroster spot, tried a shovel pass on a double-play grounder that got by secondbaseman Mike Fontenot in the first inning. Left-hander Brian Burres had asituation he didnt deserve runners at the corners and no outs and did wellto retire Carlos Gonzalez, Troy Tulowitzki and Todd Helton in order to keep theRockies off the board.

Burres wasnt as skillful in the second inning, after thirdbaseman Pablo Sandoval threw away a potential double-play ball. Marco Scutarothreaded a two-run double; an inning later, Michael Cuddyer hit a two-run homer his first with the Rockies.

Left fielder Melky Cabrera committed another error, and Huffwas charged with one when the ball popped out of his glove as he tried to tagGonzalez running down the line.

Hoo boy, Bochy said. That is about as ugly as you canhave it. The bats, the defense, it was jut an awful game tonight. Give Moyercredit. He carved us up. He made it look easy. (Angel) Pagan had a decent at-batleading off. After that, I dont think there was a decent swing off him.

Until Sandovals double in the seventh off Esmil Rogers, theGiants were in danger of getting no-hit. They havent been involved in a springtraining no-no since the Angels did it to them in 1996. (Shawn Boskie startedthat day, and Mark Eichhorn finished it off.)

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Bochy was groping for a positive after the game, so hementioned Dan Otero. Thats a good place to start. Otero threw a 1-2-3 ninthinning to lower his spring ERA to 1.50. Hes a strike thrower (no walks in six innings)and he finds a way to post zeroes everywhere hes been. Those are the kinds ofpitchers that managers like to call up when they face an innings shortage.

I think well see Otero sometime during the season, now thathes on the roster. He might have moved ahead of Steve Edlefsen, who also hashad a good spring, yielding just two hits in 6.2 innings.

Giants spring training Day 39: Nuñez receives pair of cortisone shots

Giants spring training Day 39: Nuñez receives pair of cortisone shots

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. — Buster Posey and Brandon Crawford will return to camp Thursday, show off their WBC championship medals, and then head to nearby Salt River Fields to take on the Colorado Rockies. It'll be a few more days, however, before the Giants have their full infield on the field. 

Eduardo Nuñez said he actually got two cortisone shots in his right shoulder, since an MRI this week showed “something” in two separate spots. Nuñez asked for the MRI because, while he was able to play and make strong throws, he felt pain on a daily basis. He might DH this weekend, but it'll be a few more days before he's cleared to begin throwing. 

The Giants are hopeful that the shots calm all this down, and Nuñez anticipated being ready for Opening Day. Still, it certainly sounds like this will be a close call. Conor Gillaspie, who is having a huge spring, could get plenty of early time at third. Manager Bruce Bochy doesn't anticipate Nuñez missing Opening Day.

"He should be ready," Bochy said. 

The Giants need all the good injury news they can get. It is expected that Will Smith will announce Friday that he's having Tommy John surgery. 

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Also, one of the bench candidates, Gordon Beckham, asked for his release. The Giants will soon have to make decisions on Hill and David Hernandez, who have similar retention bonuses due March 28.

GAME RECAP: The Giants played one of their uglier games of the spring, losing 9-2 to King Felix and the Mariners … Matt Moore lasted just 1 2/3 innings, giving up four runs on four hits, two walks, a balk and a wild pitch. It was the same old thing: Moore just all of a sudden lost his command, and because he got up past the 30-pitch mark in the second inning alone, the Giants cut it off. Moore went down to the bullpen and got up to around 80 pitches. He'll make one more start down here, Tuesday against the Cubs ... Joe Panik had a hard double, one of just four hits for the Giants … Chris Marrero hasn’t played a whole lot of left field this spring, and he didn’t show much to the coaches on a couple of opportunities to throw home. The left field situation remains a mystery. 

POSITION BATTLES: Kelby Tomlinson played six innings of left field in a minor league game, and he had to wait until the sixth to get his first and only fly ball. There seemed to be a lot of interest from decision-makers about how Tomlinson fared, and his action today opens up an intriguing possibility. There’s a roster permutation that has the Giants keeping just one reserve outfielder (Gorkys Hernandez) and three backup infielders: Conor Gillaspie, Aaron Hill and Kelby Tomlinson, with the latter two being options in left field. 

FAMILIAR FACE: Angel Pagan made it through the WBC healthy, and he apparently is drawing interest from the Phillies and Blue Jays. Giants people are confident Pagan will get a big league job somewhere over the coming week. 

Giants reliever Will Smith leaning toward season-ending Tommy John surgery

Giants reliever Will Smith leaning toward season-ending Tommy John surgery

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. — Left-hander Will Smith, a key piece of a revamped bullpen, is leaning toward having Tommy John surgery, manager Bruce Bochy said Thursday night. 

Bochy said surgery was the recommendation of both doctors who examined Smith's elbow this week. Smith will talk to his agent before coming to a final decision on Friday. The procedure would keep Smith out the entire 2017 season and likely would cause him to miss the start of the 2018 season.

Smith, 27, missed the first month of camp because of pain in his throwing elbow. He returned March 17, but during a March 20 outing he again felt pain and called for a trainer. A second round of diagnostics revealed a strain and a sprain in the elbow. Smith saw team orthopedist Dr. Ken Akizuki in San Francisco and flew to Los Angeles this week to get a second opinion from Dr. Neal ElAttrache of the Kerlen-Jobe Clinic. 

"They had the same opinion," Bochy said. "There is a tear there. You can try to rehab it and if that doesn't work you're behind a couple of months ... It's not a definite he's going to have it done, but two doctors are in agreement on what this is."

Smith was expected to serve as the late lefty for the Giants, getting setup work in the seventh and eighth innings. With Smith out, the Giants will lean on young lefties Steven Okert, Josh Osich and Ty Blach. 

"We're going to have to have someone step up and help us in the seventh and eighth," Bochy said. "That was going to be will's role. He's a guy we were leaning on."

Smith was acquired from the Brewers at the deadline last season in exchange for right-hander Phil Bickford (who is currently serving a 50-game suspension) and catcher Andrew Susac (who is currently injured). After a shaky start, he finished the regular season with 18 consecutive scoreless appearances. 

The Giants have for the most part avoided Tommy John for 40-man roster pitchers. Hunter Strickland, Derek Law and Josh Osich have all had it during their time in the organization, along with outfielder Mac Williamson. Prospect Ian Gardeck is currently recovering from Tommy John. The last Giants pitcher who was likely headed for the roster before having Tommy John was left-hander Eric Surkamp. He had surgery in 2012.

The timetable is different for every pitcher, but the general consensus is that the procedure sidelines a pitcher for at least a year, and usually closer to 16 months. Matt Moore, Thursday night’s starter, had Tommy John on April 23, 2014. He did not return to a big league mound until July 2, 2015, and even then, he was under restrictions. 

Smith is under team control for two more seasons after this one.