Pacquiao-Marquez: Close encounters of the fourth kind?


Pacquiao-Marquez: Close encounters of the fourth kind?

Manny Pacquiao’s done, they say. The million dollar smile’s still there, but the fiery desire that has defined the larruping lefty’s rise has all but disintegrated into dust, and his failure to finish off his last few foes in typically emphatic fashion is indicative of his decline.

Or is it? While his detractors have been boasting such claims after two consecutive un-Pacquiao outings tarnished his demigod reputation, the Filipino superstar has dismissed the invective heading into Saturday’s fourth bout with Mexican archrival Juan Manuel Marquez at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas (HBO PPV, 6 p.m. PT).

“In the last fight, I took Marquez too lightly because I was the bigger man physically,” Pacquiao (54-4-2, 38 KOs) said at their initial press conference. “My focus this time is to go for the knockout.”


I, too, have had my qualms about whether his recent rut is an anomaly or the beginning of the end for the 33-year-old. As someone who had Pacquiao winning their first fight in 2004 by three points (the judges had it a draw) and the second clash in 2008 by a single point (which ended up being the case), I disagreed with the official verdict of split decision for Pacquiao in their third meeting last November. Rather, I felt Marquez did enough to win by at least two points on my ringside card.

“I still think I won all three fights,” Marquez (54-6-1, 39 KOs) told Ring Magazine’s Lem Satterfield. “This fight will be another war. Everybody is going to watch another war because he knows me and I know him.”

Then there was that debacle six months ago where almost every observer and his dog thought Pacquiao had outpointed Timothy Bradley by a wide margin—only for the judges to treat the general public the way Lucy does Charlie Brown with a football.

Rather than avenge the dubious decision, however, Pacquiao opted for another go-around with Marquez, who will make him more money but further opened speculation that dollars have seized control of a career trajectory that has already taken the “Pac-Man” to title belts in an unprecedented eight weight classes—four of them true lineal championships in this era of alphabet soup.

While Pacquiao-Bradley generated about 700,000 pay-per-view buys, Pacquiao Marquez III almost doubled that figure. According to Yahoo’s Kevin Iole, Top Rank president Todd DuBoef has estimated Pacquiao’s share on Saturday to be upwards of $25 million; Marquez will also rake in a lot more than his guarantee of $3 million.

Pacquiao has insisted that this fight is more than a money grab, stating, “If I chose Bradley, it would be another one-sided fight. I don’t think the fans wanted to see me fight Bradley again.”

Throw in the extracurricular distractions of trading his late nights gambling for Bible study in hopes of resuscitating his marital life, his political ambitions as a congressman in the Philippines, as well as the fact that reported to his Hollywood training camp two weeks late, and one can reasonably come to the conclusions espoused in the initial paragraph—right or wrong.

“I want to erase the last fights and any doubt in [fight] number four,” Pacquiao said. “I will focus this time…I will fight and train like the old Manny—the 25-year-old Manny.”

Of course, keeping slim hopes alive for a Fight to Trump All Fights with Floyd Mayweather would constitute beating Marquez once and for all. It was only three years ago that Mayweather—albeit enjoying a size advantage—dismantled the Mexican great with ease, and it has served as a transitive argument in the American juggernaut’s case for his superiority to Pacquiao. (The counterpoint is that styles make fights, but that’s another article in itself.)

Thus, a decisive defeat on Saturday would further impair the already waning intrigue surrounding Pacquiao-Mayweather. Then again, a resounding knockout from the “Pac-Man” of old would rejuvenate the buzz for a bout that has been estimated to generate $160-180 million in pay-per-view gross revenue alone.

So while the burden of proof is on Pacquiao to demonstrate that he still belongs in the discussion of world’s pound-for-pound king, Marquez is out to show that he has been criminally deprived of a seat at the royal table for years.

“It seems that Manny has only one opponent every time we fight—me—while I have four—Manny and the three judges,” Marquez said in his HBO training blog.


Though Marquez’s illustrious ledger is filled with several memorable triumphs, his inability to harpoon his pugilistic Moby Dick in three tries has defined him in the public eye. In reality, the four-division titleholder’s career has been littered with instances of hard luck, with some of it self-inflicted.

Marquez’s pro debut 19 years ago was a disaster, falling to Javier Duran by first-round disqualification. As he rebounded from that setback and started winning championship bouts in the lower weight classes, he found himself overshadowed by former stablemate Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales for the distinction of Mexico’s heir apparent to Julio Cesar Chavez.

Moreover, after furiously rallying from three first-round knockdowns to earn a draw with Pacquiao, he rejected what he considered a lowball offer of $750,000 for a 2006 rematch—only to end up controversially losing his title belt to Chris John in an Indonesian parking lot for $30,000. (I can’t make up that last part if I tried.)

He would eventually secure two more bouts with Pacquiao, but would be punished by the judges for a calculated, counterpunching approach that at varying points of their three encounters was too negative in contrast to his foe’s constant aggression. But don’t tell that to the aggrieved party.

“I still get very angry when I think about those scored being read,” Marquez said. “After two fights I felt I had won at least 19 of the 24 rounds.”

In the first fight, Marquez was overwhelmed early by Pacquiao’s speed and power, and had to dig himself out of a cavernous deficit. Then in the rematch, both judges who scored it for Pacquiao gave the Filipino rounds 3, 4, 6, 9, and 10. Almost on cue, the 12th and final frame in their third battle was Marquez’s Waterloo.

Judges Robert Hoyle (114-114 even) and Dave Moretti (115-113 for Pacquiao) rewarded the Filipino’s initiative to throw punches. On the other hand, Marquez erred by conservatively backpedaling upon heeding his cornerman Nacho Beristain’s advice that the bout was already won.

But it wasn’t, and in preparation for the fourth contest, Marquez has unveiled an impossibly sculpted physique, vowing that he won’t be taking a second off this time around. The development has raised questions about the integrity of the 39-year-old’s training methods.

Marquez’s strength coach, Angel Hernandez, has a sordid past. In 2000, as Angel Heredia, he admitted to supplying disgraced track stars Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery with performance enhancing drugs. Hernandez stated earlier this week that he’s a changed man and has been working with the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) for the past six years.

“If [Marquez’s body] is natural, I will kiss his ass,” said Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach.

At this week’s press conference, Marquez shot down the insinuations, even going as far to refer to Mayweather’s allegations last year that Pacquiao has been using illegal substances. (Pacquiao filed a defamation suit against Mayweather before settling out of court in September.)

“Before the last fight in November [2011], there had been accusations about [Pacquiao],” Marquez told USA Today’s Jonny Saraceno. “People were saying things about him, and we didn't care. We never brought it up, and we did not know anything and we didn't think that it was something. So we didn't bring it up.”

Pacquiao, who according to his fitness guru Alex Ariza is focusing strictly on boxing and not strength and conditioning for this camp, refrained from touching the subject of Marquez’s new chiseled features in depth.

“I want to put that out of my mind and give him credit for working hard, and, and if you work hard, it's not about the size,” Pacquiao said. “This is not about the size. I've been fighting the bigger guys, guys bigger than me, so it's about how you punch in the ring.”

Of course, neither fighter’s calling card during his rivalry has been the gift of gab, but rather the uncanny ability to bring out the best (and worst) out of his rival inside the squared circle. Will Pacquiao and Marquez treat Saturday like Round 37 and give us the same ebb and flow that has marked this trilogy, or will we see drastically different gameplans—and at long last, a clear victor?

“There’s no way we’re going to win a decision this time,” Roach said. “When we were sitting at the press conference, Manny scratched it into the tablecloth that we need a knockout to win, and he’s never done that before. I told him that I’m going to hold him to that.”

CSN Bay Area Boxing Insider Ryan Maquiñana is a voting member of the Boxing Writers Association of America and panelist for Ring Magazine’s Ratings Board. E-mail him at, check out his blog at, or follow him on Twitter: @RMaq28.

Warriors bury Clippers rivalry with 50-point barrage in third quarter

Warriors bury Clippers rivalry with 50-point barrage in third quarter

OAKLAND -- The Warriors-Clippers rivalry, dead for a couple years, was buried 50 points deep Thursday night.

There were, and may always be, occasional fits of temper in which both players and officials will be tested. That surely was the case during the Warriors’ 123-113 victory over LA at Oracle Arena.

But scoring 50 points in 12 minutes, as the Warriors did in the third quarter, is a rather emphatic statement that serves as its own embellishment. It sent the Clippers back home, unable to muster even a half-hearted comeback.

“That was incredible,” Kevin Durant said of third-quarter scoring frenzy.

“That’s a lot of points,” Klay Thompson said. “It’s that the most we’ve had all season?”

Well, yes, it is. The Warriors’ previous high for points in a quarter was 45, also against the Clippers, on Jan. 28.

So this was astonishing even to the Warriors, the highest-scoring team in the NBA for three seasons running. This is the Warriors’ fourth 50-point quarter in franchise history and their first since March 1989. They made nine 3-pointers, tying a franchise record for triples in a quarter.

Fifties are rare, period; the last one by any team in the NBA was on March 25, 2014, when the Lakers dropped 51 in a quarter against the Knicks.

“I had no idea we scored that much,” said Stephen Curry, who scored 20 in the quarter -- 17 in the final 3:37 before halftime. “Obviously, coming back from 12 down to having a double-digit lead, it all started with the defensive end and finding transition.”

The scoring breakdown: Curry scored 20, Durant 15, Thompson 5, Andre Iguodala and Zaza Pachulia 4 each and JaVale McGee 2. The Warriors shot 73.9 percent (17-of-23) in the quarter.

“It all started from our defense, getting rebounds and getting out in transition,” Durant said.

The Warriors forced five LA turnovers in the quarter, off which they scored 11 points. Trailing by 12 at the half, they led by 12 entering the fourth quarter.

The Warriors have defeated the Clippers 10 consecutive times overall. They’ve beaten them 11 straight times at Oracle Arena. The average margin of victory in four games this season is 21.5 points.

This was a matter of how the Warriors responded to the threat posed by LA in the first half.

“I’m not sure what needed to happen,” Draymond Green said. “But I know we took that quarter over. And it was pretty spectacular.”

With Clippers rivalry over, Warriors feed off feud with Foster

With Clippers rivalry over, Warriors feed off feud with Foster

This will come as a sharp blow to Warrior fans who like things the way they are, but they probably can no longer use Scott Foster as an alibi for failure, or a stalking horse for rage.
Well, I mean they can, but let’s be honest here – the evidence just doesn’t support it any more.
Foster, who no matter what you say is one of the elite officials in the league, has also been cast as a bête noire by all things Golden State. Either he’s imperious, or he’s standoffish, or he makes himself too conspicuous – they’re all standard complaints made of all officials who aren’t otherwise branded as just plain terrible.
Only Foster isn’t terrible, given the fact that he has worked a series of NBA Finals, and that remains the gold standard for officiating.
But the Warriors bang their heads against the backboard when he works their games, and were on the verge of doing that again Thursday night against the Los Angeles Clippers. Foster called third quarter technicals on Andre Iguodala and the Warrior bench, and J.T. Orr called one on Draymond Green, all in the space of 6:34. The Warriors were unhinged, the fans were unhinged, innocent bystanders were being hit with flying hinges throughout the arena.
And in that stretch, the Warriors outscored the Clippers, 26-15, en route to a 50-point quarter (the first in two seasons and the third since the turn of the millennium) and another harsh slapdown of what used to be known as the Warriors-Clippers Cavalcade Of Hate, this time 123-113.
It isn’t that any more, not close. Truth is, the Warriors have won 10 consecutive games against the Clips, but probably never quite at decisively as this. At the game’s most lopsided stretch, Golden State outscored Los Angeles, 72-33, in a shade over 17 minutes.
Because that’s what they do.
Only this time, the comeback was not fueled by the existence of the Clippers, who had outplayed them pretty convincingly for the first 22 minutes and change, but with the officials, who as we have said before irk the hell out of them when their number includes Foster.
Who, again, is one of the game’s best officials. I think it’s a personality clash, to be frank, in which both sides can take some blame.
Truth is, though, when a team can go for 50 in a quarter and still have time to engage in a feud with the officials, it is making a kinky little statement about what they can do when enraged, and how difficult it is to stop them when they have a serious mad-on.
Yes, it is probably stretching a point to make this case, especially when the Warriors make 17 of 23 shots (9 of 15 from three) and assist on 13 of the 17 field goals. It is probably minimizing Stephen Curry’s 20-point quarter and his four assists, or Kevin Durant’s 15 and five rebounds, or David West imposing his body between Green and the officials to keep him from getting T’d up again for the second successive game.
But we have already established that rivalries are dying at their feet left and right. In the last three years the Clippers have gone from the Warriors’ arch-enemies to a team that has finished an aggregate 44 games behind the Dubs in the standings, making whatever animosity they can still stir 

Against the Clips a curio of a much earlier time. The Oklahoma City Thunder have come and gone, and even the Durant-Russell Westbrook has lost its last bit of elasticity.
Oh, there is still Cleveland, but that cannot be resumed for another 14 weeks at the earliest.
The Warriors, in short, have run out of opponents, and given that they will manufacture a foe when one does not otherwise exist, Scott Foster may have to serve for the time being, even if he is nothing but an intermittent prop to amuse the customers when the game cannot provide.
Though you’d have to think the third quarter Thursday makes that pretty thin oatmeal. The Warriors ate an entire game in 12 minutes, including the officials. They seemed like they got their fill.