this is already that it's already a warped position. And everything about baseball is colored by all the goofy things. That they've done such a hall of fame as a hot mess it's always gonna be one. So this is just another hot mess is all it is to me but -- the country not being segregated. And therefore they're being racism and not being able to compete against black players the same as players. Taking drugs to -- -- worse it's infinitely when the color line was far worst baseball . Then PDs by a wide margin. And I don't know anybody can make. Via the other argument. So if the color line is OK with all thing I don't understand. How PED use this because it's not. Often it's not church. It's the history of the game warped straight and otherwise. And so. I think this is something that baseball's got to -- look you guys look the other way on all this stuff. So now you live with the price of that and the price that is your hall of fame is devalued for the clean guys with the dirty guys for the guys. Andrew you voted for Barry Bonds -- -- did because I thought that he's one of the greatest players ever played a game in terms of -- skill set to and when you enhanced it obviously became totally cartoonish and you know for me ain't cheating you never won a reward somebody -- cheating but I do think we have to step back and look at what baseball . He is -- the culture of. The game is just an excuse someone for cheating is a reason they did all this stuff in private behind closed doors ever talked about it. But players always looking to get an edge and I think a lot of hall of famers who played the fifties and sixties would have taken steroids -- guys are on record saying. They were done and Mike Schmidt Bob Gibson among others. And it's almost like why do you put these guys at fault so what Barry Bonds Mark McGwire. When their stuff just worked exponentially better than the stuff that was available in the fifties and sixties is still cheating guys have been looking to load up the baseball steal signs. Get any -- they can. And can here's the thing that's interesting -- -- Mike Piazza who I thought was

the steroid use and you can't really quantify. You know how much steroids enhanced his game but it's obvious that made huge impact but he's just one of the most talented players in baseball history. Marquis said you'd probably have trouble ever voting form yet here he's gonna come up again and again on the ballot

hall of Famer. Long before there's any evidence that he took any steroids and watching him all those years he just -- talent level makes and one of the greatest ever play the game and to me that's like that you belong in the priest. You say polarizing that would could describe a lot of candidates on this particular list. And there's that rumor floating around right now that none of the names on the list even get elected into the hall thing. Is that a possibility it's definitely a possibility especially when you look at someone like Craig Biggio he has a great case he's got 3000 hits -- Nobody in baseball history. Has hit more doubles is a right handed hitter and -- this year it's a lot of stats show you how