Thrilled to have Kareem Abdul Jabbar or chronicle conversation. It had to be discussed contract to get the record exactly. Very figure. Mark Eaton was a big guy like 73 sets -- voters are important. He had the whole business of being big and in the way he had that down. That was an. Anybody block the sky hook in your career -- -- really didn't think you're good guy he was checking you not not help defenders sag and down but -- guy out you. Anybody ever get up there -- bowl or Nader anybody and. And in person might have gotten one coming from a blind side presented that might have happened but nobody that was guarding me. Could get to it I think there was the to genius Soviet I think the fact that I was moving. And I can always get it off before they couldn't get the spacing and the timing right to block it. -- are releasing quickly and from such a high angle that they could never really time it. If you stay stay back and tried to time and I'd just take. A little half step away from them -- and confused era. There Chiming -- and they're measuring of this of the year distance. That I. I'd I'd shoot it I remember interview -- must 125 years ago and you said legally. The guy who played me the best was Nate Thurmond and some guy I leaned on me and hackneyed -- neat it's straight up. Good hard playing defense Nate Thurmond played an investor. Midnight there wasn't an extraordinary defensive player I mean he he really industry youngest of the game he understood how to use to his length. And -- he was Agile he was quick. A lot of respect for mates. Finish ability or on the court he made me work my points legitimately. Bill Russell just retired when when you came into the NBA will Chamberlain was not quite the same player obviously very good but he was 33 years of age but I go back to the seventies and the course Nate was there but you -- bobbled neared. Artis Gilmore and Bob Mack -- and Dave Collins and that was a golden age of us censure play in the NBA until we got away from that. Too much now with a three point line they don't get the ball the post the way they used to. I think that the three point line is like really skew people's thinking about the game the easiest way to score. The most efficient way to score is to get as close as you can to to. So play close to put you back to the basket and and getting in the paint him -- -- -- -- -- -- -- you know shorter shots going more often and in the longer sure. Put -- I think the people -- and game 22 kids now they just TJ did just teaching them guard skills cannot teach him how to play in the paint. And I think that's why it's become a dying art because you know unless the knowledge goes from generation to generation. -- can die off. Lakers play the game last night against the Portland and LaMarcus Aldridge he's on the guy noted that she's so hook shot like like I did he's got -- down. No one else is using it but he never gets a book. Well. Some people should pick up on -- why why why don't thing I don't I don't know I think the whole idea of Duncan -- ball or hitting. But reported to most of the kids knowledge that they think it's more fixing you know the best talker that's all I can pick out you know it. It's more of -- it's it's come down to something where it has to be. Have had to do a personal style. As opposed to winning the game efficiently. -- style is more important to these kids now have been contest. Now 38000 points and think you're your sky hook and could work today in the envision given -- and think about -- You know what I'm gonna ask you about the we talked about you growing up in a New York City that you're actually drafted by the Milwaukee Bucks obviously number one in 69 but BA BA. And the New York Mets weren't in net around at that I've -- did you ever really consider. Going to the ABA and playing for the New York nets. Coming I think -- I didn't come. Put -- when it came down to a I had one or from the NBA and went off from the ABA in the NBA offered they offer me more money. And the ABA to me was not establish like India was in the end it was more established. And I thought that. In the long run it would survive in the ABA wouldn't. So you know it was an easy trust me go to them here. Later on -- BA wound up merging fourteen from the ABA including the Mets came into the NBA. Your rookie year I mean right away take a 27 win team to 56 she averaged nearly 29 a game. Fourteen rebounds a game -- was there ever a time where you struggled. It all even right away that first training camp or did you walk in the NBA right away and you are the best guy on the floor. I had some doubt through trip through -- training camp because remember I had this whole. The memory of people tell me in grade schooler dogs too skinny. To make it in the pro of food tour after playing their exhibitions that season. I knew I was going to be okay -- later in your career you get up to about four to 65 but when you were young will be at two and a quarter so. Truly he came in when I generally does like to 25 to thirty and then all over the course of my career hard got to 2260. Oscar Robertson. Second year in the NBA Tobago comes to Milwaukee you guys won 66 and win win the when the NBA championship tell me about that that time with the with the big hill current. There was such -- push it -- to play -- Oscar because he he was hit consummate skills he could play literally and it was position on the court. -- him the trivia question was strong enough you know he has the strength. Put just anything that you could do -- -- vocal cord possibly could do it and it's a shame he didn't get to play. With a three point line -- had -- bring. Mean is really accurate from range. And he would have had some impact fair but he could do anything on the -- great leader for four for a change. Six years your first six years in the NBA is spent in Milwaukee and then October 74 you're going to your final year with the bucks you say that I wanna be traded I wanna go to either. The New York Knicks or wanna go to the Los Angeles Lakers now we know we went to LA but apart and he's taken advice he went to the next I probably would have given up. A lot of those players but Clyde Frazier was there Earl Monroe Bill Bradley danger Bershard. Looking back and it was there ever scenario where you could've gone from the Bucs to the Knicks. -- there wasn't because. The Knicks didn't have the players that Milwaukee wanted. The Lakers do. So. Phoenix couldn't make the -- could Hoff was money I think Dave had retired but report to -- in Missouri and he may have been Davone Vilma might have retired over. At that Milwaukee wanna Elmore Smith I guess was the big guy that they -- back when we trade like Carmelo trade he can't trade a guy like like yourself for Carmelo for. How many guys in the game given twelve guys but you're the guy did not that makes the difference -- -- like Carmelo he's a unique talent home. If he gets his defensive game go to he's gonna be scary you know he's already he's. Former rule. Yeah I guess part of my question in light of Carmelo going to the -- is -- did you ever wanna play at the guard Andy via neck there and he had a Chargers and that's a. Especially -- when I was in grade school yet I'm a wonderfully for the next. And then. Learning about the game and from watching Bill Russell play I became a a Celtics fan just because the way they played the game. Along that that was true basketball. So. What I had to Chesley Milwaukee I wanted to go to and that was our first towards but -- they couldn't make the deal you know that the the Milwaukee Bucks. -- -- they couldn't make the deal the Knicks didn't have put they needed that they didn't need money they need to players. And the Los Angeles -- the players that. The that the that the Bucs found except. It's certainly worked out for the lawsuit because runs not bad and -- -- he's the showtime Lakers went to the finals beat. Times including the final three years of your period a crucial one in a five NBA championships. Ervin Magic Johnson. You guys are so different off the court your skills on the floor complemented to each other so so brilliantly when you guys friends off the court much drink. Here we were friends we we we really had a good film. A good trail only thing going on that team. And -- strong North Carolina connection. Course that for a -- mother is from North Carolina thing my -- from North Carolina. James worthy. Area that's culture. Bob back and do our routine. North Carolina and we have learned to other guys who have good -- North Carolina. It's funny you know they had to. Terrible that there would be like behind the scenes put. Really had a good trail only thing going you know we've we've spent time with the total on the road we go to movies a lot. Irvin the mother would cook for us when we went through -- Michigan. Peripheral conservative -- to stay at the same dietary rules like Muslims and so she'd always put together. Some some -- for me it delicious. Sweet potato pies fried chicken in his wonderful. Just. A really good. Team atmosphere and to think it could -- for success. And you mentioned Bob Mack -- grown up in Buffalo, New York values -- to overlook Torre great three time scoring champion MVP got a -- -- -- the in the seventies and later came off the bench during your. Our first few NBA championships he's now coaching that's still has been coaching forever with Pat Riley and the Miami Heat on the bench I don't wanna ask you is we conclude our conversation. About you going into coaching I remember seeing you on the bench working with the LA Clippers big men going back a few years ago and Andrew Bynum -- why aren't you more involved in the NBA right now where guys were over any team would bring you -- have you teach post skills or even become a head coach in the NB -- one day. I I start to pursued very late in the game I've not played thought I was 42. Most guys who get in the coaching start in their early thirties and from time they had their forties. They're ready. I played until I was 42 I didn't really. Start talking up my interest and being coached there I was 4740 years old. And I think you know I just got into it too late in the game. Direction where a head coach of the US BL they'll want a championship want to doesn't you know. It's not too late for you to go I mean I cannot let somebody would not wanna bring you would have you -- post skills to these guys there's not too -- and I could do that digested that -- the Lakers Andrew Bynum you know and a being. Pretty fair student. He's. Been able to. -- cause some. Lakers need for court presence with the we vanderveer and problem solved. They really have the the basket area. Really well played they don't need them or -- wing -- In their cause they got -- we you know. His zone he's the real low as a running out to see him. They -- have a guy and a post and that we were thrilled after -- it's only an hour show what we can go -- for a couple hours with Kareem Abdul -- -- a -- to -- her -- thank you so much for your time -- chronicle -- good luck with your film that was. Beautiful to watch and just just thanks for coming by the day here again we are thrilled to have him but whether.