Oh you want to see him. Play an air. We've -- -- we're. Once again as they -- both. This is the value is they can play both they can play guard and center you'll find where they fit best for us. We're very high on both of them obviously Joseph played at a higher level of competition. Magicians -- young man that has the traits that we're looking for much like we saw. In Kilgore and person last year he's a guy young man who played left tackle in college. And now he's he's gonna move inside the National Football League so. Know where they end up and ultimately that's that's for the coaches to decide. We just felt good about their traits and developing its interior linemen in the National Football League. First. -- What do I look what do we like about him. I mean it's infusing young man that plays the game fast and physical you know he's an undersized guy that is a chip on his shoulder. He's -- he's been a standout special teams players that are in his younger days and you know within the program. He -- he's even though he's a smaller guy by size. He's not afraid to mix it up down low and has shown the ability to make some things happen in the back camp as well also blew versatility. They didn't give the the real to compete all of those things there we liked about him. He when he was fading -- quarterback. Norm isn't that -- He beat -- easily. Rattle that quarterback experience. It helps you know you do you can you obviously want your. In this day and age the way the game has changed. You want guys on the field that can cover. Old box safety. That you used to hear about a guy that would -- down and play the run. The way the offense is playing now they've kind of made that that guy and a dinosaur in today's game. If he's on the field. He's easy to find. You know an end which you wanna do is create a balanced attack defensively. So you don't have to get in all these you know sub packages and change personnel. Because when you when you got someone out there and an offense can attack him if they've got the if they've got to -- to do that -- -- -- package guys like we do a little bit it makes it hard to defend. We you confident you can go back. Yeah. He where. You guys. We brought some of that -- you know and we've watched him move around it to come by and we watched him move around at the Senior Bowl. I actually went to one of these games live this year I think it was the Maryland game you know that I was at.