I greatest and I'm Kate -- coming at you from Baltimore. And -- joined by your insider Paul Gutierrez connection CSN California dot com. And we just Witten is that what you fans probably did not enjoy as the Raiders tied up for -- ties record. For allowing 55 points that's the most in franchise. History and I think we would -- locker room and we realized this is embarrassing loss for the teams and now I think you wonder how they handled us. And how they bounce back is a yes and from the town next week. Yeah I mean you look at the scoreboard to look at the stats and you realize the last time the Raiders gave up 55 points was in 1981 and before that was in 1961 so. You talk about an all time. Low as far as what this team accomplished. What it gave up -- -- surrendered in for the Ravens it was a French answer for most points scored as well. How do they deal with that they look at them. They don't blinded themselves they just tell themselves they there's a lot of problems and look at the film and go forward. Because even as Tommy Kelly said if if these things don't get fixed he got Drew Brees coming in next week in this get even uglier than it was this what this week. -- you're gonna break down a lot of different parts this game and he's in California dot com and I'll be talking about on sports in central but one thing I discussed with the US for use surprised about. Bill lack of time we saw from Taiwan Jones up there that was the big talk this week it seemed like his number was going to be called that -- -- And -- fat and out but not exactly -- Yeah I was surprised. And but I guess that's -- not release. All that surprising is that that we were surprised because Taiwan Jones himself was the most surprised -- -- and and he said the right things and he was the good soldier and he was the team player. But he did say yeah a lot of people including himself expected that you be a bigger part of the office once things. The wheels come off and becomes chasing points like they always do were seemingly always do and it became time to pass the ball and it was just kind of bizarre that. Not that Marcel Reece was the starting tailback so to speak with that Jeremy Stewart was just sign up the practice squad got a lot more run. Then Taiwan Jones did in went down and talents that was. Basically you don't trust them they don't trust him with the injuries that don't trust and the ball security and fumbling issues and that's unfortunate part of the game but. As somebody tweeting out there if they're not to have him out there running -- a blow out loss than wise even on the team. De Aaron Jackie did you bring life now -- -- for the first time after this one in the late quarters or do you think that media -- -- Jones. A chance he would he can do and now let's talk about. What the Ravens did in the third quarter with that -- 24 point lead and if they feel local running it for a touchdown first body ever seen anything like that in that type of situation. And then. I think that the media that the -- reacted in what we're expecting a reaction. But what -- received from the team because -- think you know at this disciplined football team that you're trying to see it seemed like they were like that in the locker room. And attractive situation and that's. Yeah I got the sense that -- that they didn't like him like that you're trailing 41 to seventeen in the opponent does a fake field goal line for a touchdown and a lot of people would use words like I was classless that was not needed -- floors and two time Super Bowl winning coach is now on the radio said that was uncalled for and he said it twice. In that locker you get the sense the players -- really care for it but they weren't gonna say anything about. And at the bottom line is as Tommy Jones it's messed up in more colorful language than that. But the bottom line is that they have to stop and that's both ends of that both the sides of the -- Yeah I was messed up if I should have done it it was kinda classless is a lot of people saw. But other people look at it and say. It just -- And then lastly real thick -- is the best thing the Raiders did out there the worse thing. Best thing was -- the passing game continue to click a little that you saw a lot of promise with what they were able to do passing wise Carson Palmer had a passer rating. In the nineties. The worst thing I mean there's too many counts all look at one of the positives and take it makes it about a that I guess. Which was a lot of batted down passes that line I don't know if Carson Palmer arm slot is changing when he's living at -- or. The offensive line is not hitting at the point of attack so that the defense like we can't get their hands. But otherwise that was one of the more bizarre -- this -- what was so many batted down. Passes from a 65 quarterback it was numbers strikeouts in his final live itself out there that was Carson Palmer at 65.