The Ric Bucher Podcast: Stephen Jackson
Welcome to this week's CSN Bay Area authentic. Podcast with -- the -- in my guest this week. Is the can't call -- Oakland's finest but you certainly were part of Oakland and well while you were here. Another I -- -- -- kindred spirit in Stephen Jackson when he was with the Warriors and obviously one -- part of of one of the great little errors in Golden State Warriors basketball part of that we believe. Run and it was that was so magical. Jack how are you man. I'm good Rick -- you. I'm good I'm good hey listen I wanna get to. -- a one hit with the hit you with each. The rap the rap career off off the top. And then we can get into a little bit of basketball but I as doing a little research tonight and I saw -- You didn't allow Timmy. Tim Duncan and I love him -- you -- -- -- Katie made the cut had that happen. Well KD is he's taken because we -- period that Timothy and with good. Dinner circuit. -- -- but it says if you if you vote to get -- level where it. I'm -- dictate that come about big commitment to us yet he's not on a rebel. Canadians -- -- -- -- Providence. You know what I wanna what I had an opportunity to get that freaked out more example how much they are made it was a noble and yet we -- the ball. As you you dropped and have a album Jack of all trades this fall. And that are there. Apart blood or straight cup respect due to a clear physical battle -- outlook on it though. So is that correct some outlet not a mix tape that come out early they were -- in BA. Which means never broke again with with the fans are so open beyond that part straight. But problems threat to do more on the topic was because the plant is Q which one are like part of the mountain career record that wanna papal. Got you so and -- will be available where if somebody wants that that we're in it. I could not be available. Loudly say is that -- going to be available on mysteries try to UT web site and obviously everywhere that you didn't make it. Okay and and so. Now you all you did put out already lonely at the top correct. You have been in this position that our own little PPG Kevin Durant problem with that -- pretty well are -- Right arm where did you where did all of this start I understand that you were. You happen in your basement. And recording stuff and just not letting it out for years before you actually tried to go in and and put out something public where where did. Where did -- start in terms of you -- your interest. Well great crop or product grew up and Margaret -- -- So -- victory. Cigar cigar that fixes that BJ screw where it was vehicle restart that I -- the it is really need to get things -- and they're complete -- yeah it was certainly certainly it would go well but I haven't used by memo how are. He. He's about that is as good record at parliament at will call it or. And out my actually my Harper's recorded an ever present and in October comprehended what goes on and not that we. They're going to lock -- in my -- in the -- Monica how exactly take. Particular series to get the record -- -- -- -- quality music. You know what which was RW Baird and it brought up are probably video or on world art department. Let me do -- -- Now what was what was more intimidating. Or scarier for you. The first time you stepped onto an NBA court you looked around or you walk into a studio. And and and and you're trying to lay down some tracks. Well publicly studio at the game because I was that confident that that law modeled black bit that we don't want is so important -- So our car has been -- -- -- the nugget. Corners who go you know that they do it could be a monster can -- kind of nervous but there's no excuse now that. They have -- remembers the first couple not a bad problem this season better now much in -- Rihanna up out that it was our. What so I got a -- I was curious about that first the first -- that you wrote or that you like. You -- you wrote something that was good enough in your mind that you wanted to recorded even if you want to let anybody else here at what was what. What did you write what in what was it about. To lose so that kind of upbeat spin around the world and early eighties. Are played in China they give it. A -- picked -- actually Bert -- ought yeah at a world where there in age I anticipate people that would make it productive major advantage I. It was -- so -- double move would it would it would loyalty. Talk about my life the -- Republicans could limit lately not be as -- player. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And what it. What was it that motivated you. To want to express yourself in that way. Well as you know -- now Ottawa. -- the talk to pin it down court you know even -- the course of the year and every umpire. I've never been I've never been together but they aren't backed your remarks. That's one well color. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The others at the -- that could go up and do what a lot of it BA get or get to do it appeared that it will and it is that they got to carry this where they -- -- somebody that. Pop up until that news again it was something about what it. Bobby speak -- -- -- of that people get that break. The ball did not -- it -- and energetic. Now how do you how do you balance. Sort of this this this law the second love as you said in and the interest in trying to make something happen with this. And and continue to play basketball. I'm may you know that they had to today you know I made you know obviously it does go. We have to -- so it -- article where it met without bigger bigger and Amir are you easy. -- -- focused on what I was doing. Don't think that was bad on my account but it was my left and ultimately that was perhaps. Some of the cockpit and you know and you know he basically told me to the Margarito let that you know is that there is me being in my mind and you know. I've gotten rid the world people step up on the things -- And really it is by particular -- people say about not I'm probably good news about you all love it Lincecum from a bit with. -- -- A -- think that would surprise a lot of people that you would go to David and and talked to him about what you want to do first I don't I don't know that they. And I'll be one of the things I know about you is that I can city one of the most in misunderstood players that I know in the league and eight oh why why did you decide that you would dude David the courtesy of going to him in San hey look this is what I play. Cool to regroup. Three reasons. Well -- pretty good after the brawl. You know he didn't pick yet can be as it is back there and shoot what got nervous -- you can you got it figured he had a league game absolutely because you know. I was now I. If that that are actually help my teammate spoke -- Boat that he understood that out of out of me no more of that. I love that about Bartlett horse lover. -- The -- what -- grabbed his commitment that was certainly a market that could start weigh in on the net that we have there are pretty great. I respect the game close again about our respective pesos on the right -- go to the business and let him know. When outdoors it would jeopardize. That Welker but baucus verso. And propelled us modest to do with the recap and let him know what I was brought so people would pick in the wrong way because not but happy that everything that they've all worked. Is Sara is -- someone in the rap game that is -- of particular or has been a particular influence for you. Yeah a couple -- actually I can be a real one -- conceivably musical group -- straight to my hometown will be guys who. Actually put the word true a lot of -- And bay opera ball down on the computer and brought up -- -- grew up that served him so I consider. My out my problem is that it is friends they -- -- true music. Are already what is meant you were -- you know. See he is -- big huge influence you know he he's either a creative mind and not think that do. And I automatic out kilometers from doctors that repko. Now -- was a good friend of your older brother is that correct. Yeah how how much of an influence. Was your in this is one of the things that you gave me the opportunity to write about was is about. What happened with your brother and how that has influenced you in how that may have impacted. Some of the things that you've done in your your your loyalty in your league -- Being there for. Four teammates when something gets a little luck gets a little crazy. You know. Perpich. It was a do whatever they got -- That it wasn't the character that you first -- later. Kennedy. Get done about it -- losses could definitely not be enough about the dog and well you would have been nice. And no one day at the -- that that occurred you know it is it that he's my mind so but it situation. Well monetary. -- guys that come around it was more -- -- -- crap out there that you can't that be could be though among a lot of you know I'm not a lot of guys that. Well -- that you are marked out epic where there's a bit that day. I -- -- would be at Rio and everybody -- -- -- because it is considered Garrity at saint what you see is what you get for bill and that would let it. Going home walk again the next day my teammate -- and -- little I would like. It and for those those who don't know the entire story at the story with Stephen for ESPN the magazine. It -- about his older brother who who he lost and how he Lawson and if you if you. You want to know the details -- -- -- -- -- bring them -- now. You can you can find that -- not continually using his name and my name and he -- in the magazine we should be able -- -- -- have you have you have I wonder about this because of how. How much. That. Impacted you have you have you written about it did you rapped about it. Yeah it's -- -- Probably our. -- worst part about it accomplished. And is his greatest victory to block parties back here -- here. How are grant -- or not they don't want to say cooperative in the round. And because of that I would Nadal was just DeLia. Don't matter. I was he would do you know people up -- -- trying to -- song goes it is is on that Jamal lord. A rebel that precedent that was wrote about what are close friend and brother. Are you and is that part of thought is that gonna be on NBA. Actually -- actually it is not because like I want -- I want I want that to be more grabbed the ball. The level below my outlook on not that -- -- it and it means a lot to give it away. In. You know what I would picture so you know what get a lot of here and allowed. -- I would definitely on the accountability and could have. Couldn't keep a sick keep us in the loop so when that the moment and when that breaks do we can make sure there were. Actually Rickey know you might got out that I'm out out -- you result you get here. I would love to I would love to hear that. Now I also notice a one year what are -- more. And this is an interview you did a little -- while back but. You said that you ended it by saying I don't know what kind of music pop pop listens to meaning Gregg Popovich Spurs coach but I would never give him my CD. -- No idea that. That -- go out and -- respect I don't know. You know we I'll I'm no problem problem that respect -- -- Chicago it into it they are always felt that could be Serbia. Is that because of that because of the way we approach the game out yet you're. And that we know we have a couple more similar to bring the sport music. I'm over so there was quality and respect. One of the greatest -- that because they're good but you're -- mistreated that that. Respect you know well. Fair fair enough fair enough what is it like for you. To be back there with the Spurs in and trying to get to win another championship won one last championship. -- to bring the circle. Completely complete the circle and be back there and win another championship with with Tim Duncan in and -- in the rest of the guys. Marie you know it means everything you have Maine yep and when the chips later or so that they constitute give me that you abuse so. Not that upset that was played at that level year in here. They'll give them because it that though I think it -- an epic game back respects because that medal at the league but the book is pretty Serbian. Been able to protect the pin and it would -- -- monitor nobody on the court could be on the culprit probably. Well I can't learn how to be a professional. -- went that route and got out of it again out of here this -- like this where our out of the gate where well be back years sixes we come from there went my whole day. I mean there's so many lessons to albeit while from all male. -- part of our efforts on Tuesday that would -- among -- group. Yeah well eight I think that's what people don't understand sometimes you just have to make a financial decision they have to make one. You have to make one in the end and you got a championship. You've gotten paid probably get paid a little bit more it's still -- a couple more years ahead of you but ultimately. People -- people love to play the loyalty card. -- business yeah. -- -- -- -- It is a bit is that you I'm glad I'm here because. Create this just -- That -- we that you don't have this problem with that would be back here they were not present when the -- about the not tentative game one I want to go our legacy to do one of. -- nine -- I have to ask. Because one because it cost you a little bit of money into you were stepping up for your boy. Run our test again. Was the beef with surged. Was it something was it just stepping up for Ron or was it something else. None of it knew -- it was more he didn't get it through it -- you know there's there's there's there's a lot of guys recovered NBA or very -- because -- that make money you don't dictate attack the Baghdad I'll let you know and it argues. I'm so I'm though under a lot of a lot of it there you go out and it did it. It suit out there and it does look around rather -- -- -- is there it got the meat well. When would that get me in -- money that you have to -- -- part -- back. I don't appreciate that did not know people. -- -- Number around that struggling to get up and -- So well to see yet. -- in India and wondered how bad it was quite -- people are probably going it -- the PG. No I think that we put somebody a break it up and to get bigger target is that it hit it -- -- -- -- -- obviously I was law was speak about ought to outlaw spent about Pittsburgh -- how -- -- a lot of questions about the wanna be so they're not a lot of got that was they have an opportunity there. Right -- I I have to think it with all your experience. And with all your background and understanding that that a lot of times when when these things break out and guys pop up their tests. That you almost laugh they -- moment. That does not even close to be in -- Riot because because I know it if it could be spent got this club club. And another -- -- -- -- -- -- -- they would act the same way there on TV that I didn't protect them NBA protect. Got rare breed that well I don't know probably believe a -- -- -- -- that I know. -- -- -- -- You know I know -- a Goldberg got like that that would that would react very -- -- They like having an easy call out people that. And again where I want to either be so up that you get more pick a bit somebody who were over where you go ahead -- They -- why do you think it is that. Athletes wanna be musical are artists and musical artists wanna be professional athletes. Well I think really what it was that easy they go ahead and all actors could rappers want to be at least at wannabe actors aren't. This -- recruited them and against Portugal and then it's like you know you listen to every -- any new look at what they they got some music and you don't you you see any. Everything -- our -- our anger and there are outlook at all about -- as well. So -- it it it giggle and an update you know the guys that are they they really didn't check that. Check -- could -- he was one of the most and it people who don't play that well. -- yet it probably the big -- -- be up at all blog diplomat while being a real part in the people who. Can't -- right out of people you know Kobe private market they have -- fans. That is what this committee spent the month that it can report comfort again. So. -- elect Obama region a bit of weight well Peter will bring real -- and the people understand that broke that interact with people that -- So do you think do you think they go hand in hand because. They're both a form of expression. Or do you or do you think that it's because the two worked together that when you're playing. There's there's a musical moment there's there there's. There's a story in in playing I wanna get too deep here but but I just wondered whether it's. You know they look when -- anytime -- gladly -- a -- the -- -- -- covering a box. And it always it always makes the game. That much better almost than feel realistic at some music. At a ticketed out there. It has been everybody that goes -- they're big and have Theo has been that that they are now sir you know edit it and it today. What would commitment to -- -- like that that -- that -- your own topic that you make your life. Was that you -- Which are that are out like a product relate to the people like you know also OK -- -- -- they don't -- -- it is debatable in the -- it. And you have to pick that was ruined what people what. What's the biggest compliment that you ever received. As a rapper. That -- a bit. -- regret that -- -- to have to do so that. Who who said. -- who told you that. -- I -- -- ultimately be -- there and a. Yeah. And and the biggest compliment you received. Or that or that or the thing that someone said to you that meant the most to you. As a tackler. I'm not the result -- -- ultimately make over a month or what department -- that -- court -- -- -- it all the time. That Indonesia that got me on the ultimate teammate. Certainly Latin -- at that the fire Baylor would do that real doubt that it hit about Vietnam which which. Nothing big you know which is a victory. I agree and and I can vouch for that same thing. We go back a ways and I've always respected what you've done and how you've done it I've always appreciated your honesty. And and I can I can stand up for the fact that view. You walk the walk as well as talk the talk when you say that your you're with somebody -- with somebody the end I certainly. I certainly know that. Curse and and -- for a white boy from Cincinnati who now lives in the Bay Area. Much much appreciated thanks for joining me on and which I can and listen to the in willow got bumped -- a pump and NBA seems to get that out. Yeah recently picked up and it -- that he bought that book is there. You got it all right Stephen -- good. That was Stephen Jackson and that was this week's CSN authentic podcast with. 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Ric Bucher grills former Warrior Stephen Jackson about his rap career and his memories of the 'We Believe' team.